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We told Wright Patterson Air Force Base we were offered a contract in 1961 and we told

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them at that time that if you have a security problem tell us, if this is a problem, the

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Niceman Security Tell us, we'll reconsider what we're doing and they said they didn't

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care how much research we did.

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Now we have had strong suspicions with reason that our phones have been tapped because we

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keep getting these calls and they want the information.

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We told them time after time our books are open, you can have all the information that

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we have.

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Perfectly welcome to it, we have no secrets.

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But in spite of this, on one occasion two years ago I had a reason to call the base

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and I did call Wright Patterson Air Force Base about a sighting in Argentina which involved

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some of our ships.

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I did not introduce myself and yet before I finished the conversation he said well Mr.

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Moriaz he said we don't have any more information on it and I said no, just wait a minute I

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didn't tell you who I am and he said well I know who you are.

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So one of two things I suspicion that they had listened to so many tapes from the tapped

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telephone that they knew my voice, this was Sergeant Mooney or else they had one of these

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voice print machines which I understand they now have which will identify any voice they

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have ever heard within ten seconds.

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Now one of these two things had to be true but they have never once told us not to research

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or not to get into it.

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In fact they offered us a contract but they were honest enough to say that if we took

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the contract they would give us research materials that are the equipment and in return we would

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give them information but if we did they would tell us where and when and what to say about

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it.

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So we said well there is no security problem and none of these things are involved and

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we choose to be free and we didn't take the offer.